TBF: Goth vs Emo
Fixation On The Darkness
By Killswitch Engage
Fixation on the darkness
That engulfs this world
Drain the life force of our people
Change
Change
Fixation on the darkness
That engulfs this world
Drain the life force of our people
Return to the womb [New life]
Lay your head to rest [Mercy]
To give you a peace of mind
Lay your head to rest
Come together inside
This body is only a shell
Change
The only way we will survive
Light transfiguration of the soul
Of the soul, of the mind
Fixation on the darkness
That engulfs this world
Drain the life force of our people
Return to the womb [New life]
Lay your head to rest [Mercy]
To give you a peace of mind
Lay your head to rest
Tell them they will not hold us down,
It's time for a change
It's time for a change
It's time for a change...
A common aspect in life is our need to establish an identity for ourselves. Often times we use our interests as the basis of definition for who we are. Outside influence plays a large part of who we become, though most outside influence can really be trace to one of three factors:
- People
- Media
- Life Experiences
Thus the question is asked:
"Is the person that we are, really the person inside?"
While I admit, examining every single person on the planet would hold more of the answers we seek, I remembered that I only have a week to write this, so I decided to shift my focus on two "extreme" versions of identity.
I chose these two on the grounds that I believe that they yield the most in behavioral conditioning. To which I'll give a basic summary of the nature and then compare the two to measure differences in behavior. So this week I get to test that high IQ that I'm rumored to have...
This week on The Brian Factor: Goth vs. Emo
I know that the title gives off the impression that I'm attempting to face both of these lifestyles against each other but actually I added it mainly cause it sounded cool...
GOTH
Goth began in the United Kingdom during the early 1980s as result of genre of music known as the Gothic rock scene, which stemmed from the post-punk genre. Out of all known sub genres during the 80's rock scene, the goth subculture is the only one still thriving today, and has actually continued to diversify. Its imagery and cultural proclivities maintain heavy influences from nineteenth century Gothic literature, and of course mainly through horror movies.
The goth subculture has associated tastes in music and fashion, whether or not all individuals who share those tastes are, in fact, members of the goth subculture. Gothic music encompasses a number of different styles. Common to all styles is a tendency towards a lugubrious, mystical or fatalistic sound and outlook. Styles of dress within the subculture range from death rock, punk, androgynous, medieval, some Renaissance and Victorian style clothes, or combinations of the above, most often with black attire, makeup and hair.
The goth subculture developed very closely with certain forms of music, The most known forms of music within the subculture are:
post punk
death rock
Gothic rock
dark wave
ethereal wave
Though a common misconception is the genre of heavy metal, which is often confused as the primary music with the culture. When in reality Heavy metal and all forms of metal have no real connection to goths, Metal music is only really connected to Metalheads.
EMO
The term emo originated in the 1980s to describe a genre of music stemming from the hardcore punk music scene in Washington, D.C. Early bands labeled emo (or sometimes emocore) in this scene included Rites of Spring, Embrace, and Fugazi. The term emo as a music genre has become broader and broader with time, and now is loosely understood to mean "rock music with emotionally-based lyrics or effect." The term is so loosely defined because its definition is still the subject of debate. Emo now often refers to a person's fashion, personality, or both, as well as the music genre.
Emo are usually defined to have roots in punk fashion as well as Gothic fashion. By almost all current definitions, emo clothing is characterized by tight jeans on males and females alike, long fringe (bangs) often brushed to one side of the face, dyed black, straightened hair, tight t-shirts which often bear the names of rock bands, studded belts, belt buckles, skate shoes, or other black shoes - often old and beaten up - and thick, black-rimmed glasses. Emo fashion has changed with time; early trends included haircuts similar to those worn by the Romulans and Vulcans in Star Trek, tightly fitting sweaters,
button-down shirts, and work jackets.
Most definitions of emo hold that an "emo person" is candid about their emotions, sensitive, shy, introverted, broken-hearted, glum, and often quiet. Emo personality is also often connected with writing poetry, which addresses confusion, depression, loneliness, and anger, all resulting from the world's inability to understand the author. Emo poetry uses a combination of any of: a highly emotional tone, stream of consciousness writing, a simple (ABAB) or nonexistent rhyme scheme, references to the flesh, especially the heart, heavy use of dark or depressing adjectives, concern over the mutability of time and/or love, and disregard for punctuation, grammar, and/or spelling. Themes such as life is pain are common.
Some definitions of emo hold that typical "emo persons" are likely to inflict self-injury, most often by means of cutting, burning, or otherwise mutilating themselves. Some assert that it is cool within the emo subculture to pretend to be suicidal and self-harm, or that participants self-harm purely for personal enjoyment.
Emos are also stereotyped to use depressing Internet screen names within straight edge X's, often using ironic slogans, a poetic sense or cliche.
BEHAVIORAL COMPARISON
By comparison Emo's are the ones who are in fact the most dangerous in terms of behavior, They engage life in a mind set that is without question self destructive. Emos treat all of life as a tragedy, as if in a state of constant mourning for a lost friend. The statistics show that they are more than likely to commit suicide and engage in self mutilation.
Goths on the other hand, are really just outsiders, people who never fit in a standard setting. Like Emos, Goths are aware about our mortality and embrace the understanding that death is an inevitably, but they don't seem to let it stop them from living life. The allure of darkness is something we all experience at one time or another. Though what makes them special
is that unlike Emos, they enjoy the basics of emotion, they live for pleasure, wonder, and a sense of serenity. It's no question that they're heavily influenced by concepts of vampirism, but anyone who's familiar who vampirism knows that it too has an
unnamed allure to it, the mystery, the magic. in essence the unknown, There is no judge, no wrong, no right... just contentment.
MY TWO CENTS
So now that I have shared my findings from and objective standpoint...
IT'S TIME I CRACKED SOME FUCKING SKULLS AROUND HERE!!!!
But I'm gonna keep it short and sweet...
The minute we become teenagers, our hormones go into overdrive and we all feel screwed up, we all feel like nothing makes sense and that we're stuck in our own private hell. But the one thing you have to realize is that you're not alone. This isn't a perfect world, the people aren't perfect and hell in every walking body on God's green earth, they're all feeling confused, scared, sad, angry, and often questioning everything they do.
ONE MAN'S HEAVEN IS ANOTHER MAN'S HELL
Life in itself is a blessing, and who knows lies beyond? Whatever you believe, simply realize this: You have to stick it out to the very end, no matter how many bad days we can have all it takes is one good day to turn it all around. That's something I learned myself earlier this week.
So to all you Emos:
GROW THE FUCK UP!!! STOP FUCKIN CUTTING YOURSELVES, STOP FUCKIN KILLING YOURSELVES, YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCHES!! STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR LIFE IS SHIT, CAUSE NEWS FLASH: IF YOU CAN AFFORD THOSE OUTRAGEOUSLY OVER PRICED CLOTHES, THEN YOU GOT IT A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE.
And to you Goths:
GET SOME FUCKIN SUN!!!! PEOPLE ARE TALKING SHIT ABOUT YOU GUYS. THEY THINK YOU'RE THE DEVIL'S PLAYTHINGS OR SOMETHING. SO GO START UP A COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM, SHOW'EM THAT YOU'RE NOT THAT BAD. OPEN A FUCKIN DAYCARE OR SOMETHING!!! TEACH KIDS, INTRODUCE THEM TO BAUHAUS OR SOMETHING!!!
GOD DAMN KIDS TODAY.....
[Marie: Brian got his info from Wikipedia's articles on "Goth subculture" and "Emo (music)".]
By Killswitch Engage
Fixation on the darkness
That engulfs this world
Drain the life force of our people
Change
Change
Fixation on the darkness
That engulfs this world
Drain the life force of our people
Return to the womb [New life]
Lay your head to rest [Mercy]
To give you a peace of mind
Lay your head to rest
Come together inside
This body is only a shell
Change
The only way we will survive
Light transfiguration of the soul
Of the soul, of the mind
Fixation on the darkness
That engulfs this world
Drain the life force of our people
Return to the womb [New life]
Lay your head to rest [Mercy]
To give you a peace of mind
Lay your head to rest
Tell them they will not hold us down,
It's time for a change
It's time for a change
It's time for a change...
A common aspect in life is our need to establish an identity for ourselves. Often times we use our interests as the basis of definition for who we are. Outside influence plays a large part of who we become, though most outside influence can really be trace to one of three factors:
- People
- Media
- Life Experiences
Thus the question is asked:
"Is the person that we are, really the person inside?"
While I admit, examining every single person on the planet would hold more of the answers we seek, I remembered that I only have a week to write this, so I decided to shift my focus on two "extreme" versions of identity.
I chose these two on the grounds that I believe that they yield the most in behavioral conditioning. To which I'll give a basic summary of the nature and then compare the two to measure differences in behavior. So this week I get to test that high IQ that I'm rumored to have...
This week on The Brian Factor: Goth vs. Emo
I know that the title gives off the impression that I'm attempting to face both of these lifestyles against each other but actually I added it mainly cause it sounded cool...
GOTH
Goth began in the United Kingdom during the early 1980s as result of genre of music known as the Gothic rock scene, which stemmed from the post-punk genre. Out of all known sub genres during the 80's rock scene, the goth subculture is the only one still thriving today, and has actually continued to diversify. Its imagery and cultural proclivities maintain heavy influences from nineteenth century Gothic literature, and of course mainly through horror movies.
The goth subculture has associated tastes in music and fashion, whether or not all individuals who share those tastes are, in fact, members of the goth subculture. Gothic music encompasses a number of different styles. Common to all styles is a tendency towards a lugubrious, mystical or fatalistic sound and outlook. Styles of dress within the subculture range from death rock, punk, androgynous, medieval, some Renaissance and Victorian style clothes, or combinations of the above, most often with black attire, makeup and hair.
The goth subculture developed very closely with certain forms of music, The most known forms of music within the subculture are:
post punk
death rock
Gothic rock
dark wave
ethereal wave
Though a common misconception is the genre of heavy metal, which is often confused as the primary music with the culture. When in reality Heavy metal and all forms of metal have no real connection to goths, Metal music is only really connected to Metalheads.
EMO
The term emo originated in the 1980s to describe a genre of music stemming from the hardcore punk music scene in Washington, D.C. Early bands labeled emo (or sometimes emocore) in this scene included Rites of Spring, Embrace, and Fugazi. The term emo as a music genre has become broader and broader with time, and now is loosely understood to mean "rock music with emotionally-based lyrics or effect." The term is so loosely defined because its definition is still the subject of debate. Emo now often refers to a person's fashion, personality, or both, as well as the music genre.
Emo are usually defined to have roots in punk fashion as well as Gothic fashion. By almost all current definitions, emo clothing is characterized by tight jeans on males and females alike, long fringe (bangs) often brushed to one side of the face, dyed black, straightened hair, tight t-shirts which often bear the names of rock bands, studded belts, belt buckles, skate shoes, or other black shoes - often old and beaten up - and thick, black-rimmed glasses. Emo fashion has changed with time; early trends included haircuts similar to those worn by the Romulans and Vulcans in Star Trek, tightly fitting sweaters,
button-down shirts, and work jackets.
Most definitions of emo hold that an "emo person" is candid about their emotions, sensitive, shy, introverted, broken-hearted, glum, and often quiet. Emo personality is also often connected with writing poetry, which addresses confusion, depression, loneliness, and anger, all resulting from the world's inability to understand the author. Emo poetry uses a combination of any of: a highly emotional tone, stream of consciousness writing, a simple (ABAB) or nonexistent rhyme scheme, references to the flesh, especially the heart, heavy use of dark or depressing adjectives, concern over the mutability of time and/or love, and disregard for punctuation, grammar, and/or spelling. Themes such as life is pain are common.
Some definitions of emo hold that typical "emo persons" are likely to inflict self-injury, most often by means of cutting, burning, or otherwise mutilating themselves. Some assert that it is cool within the emo subculture to pretend to be suicidal and self-harm, or that participants self-harm purely for personal enjoyment.
Emos are also stereotyped to use depressing Internet screen names within straight edge X's, often using ironic slogans, a poetic sense or cliche.
BEHAVIORAL COMPARISON
By comparison Emo's are the ones who are in fact the most dangerous in terms of behavior, They engage life in a mind set that is without question self destructive. Emos treat all of life as a tragedy, as if in a state of constant mourning for a lost friend. The statistics show that they are more than likely to commit suicide and engage in self mutilation.
Goths on the other hand, are really just outsiders, people who never fit in a standard setting. Like Emos, Goths are aware about our mortality and embrace the understanding that death is an inevitably, but they don't seem to let it stop them from living life. The allure of darkness is something we all experience at one time or another. Though what makes them special
is that unlike Emos, they enjoy the basics of emotion, they live for pleasure, wonder, and a sense of serenity. It's no question that they're heavily influenced by concepts of vampirism, but anyone who's familiar who vampirism knows that it too has an
unnamed allure to it, the mystery, the magic. in essence the unknown, There is no judge, no wrong, no right... just contentment.
MY TWO CENTS
So now that I have shared my findings from and objective standpoint...
IT'S TIME I CRACKED SOME FUCKING SKULLS AROUND HERE!!!!
But I'm gonna keep it short and sweet...
The minute we become teenagers, our hormones go into overdrive and we all feel screwed up, we all feel like nothing makes sense and that we're stuck in our own private hell. But the one thing you have to realize is that you're not alone. This isn't a perfect world, the people aren't perfect and hell in every walking body on God's green earth, they're all feeling confused, scared, sad, angry, and often questioning everything they do.
ONE MAN'S HEAVEN IS ANOTHER MAN'S HELL
Life in itself is a blessing, and who knows lies beyond? Whatever you believe, simply realize this: You have to stick it out to the very end, no matter how many bad days we can have all it takes is one good day to turn it all around. That's something I learned myself earlier this week.
So to all you Emos:
GROW THE FUCK UP!!! STOP FUCKIN CUTTING YOURSELVES, STOP FUCKIN KILLING YOURSELVES, YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCHES!! STOP ACTING LIKE YOUR LIFE IS SHIT, CAUSE NEWS FLASH: IF YOU CAN AFFORD THOSE OUTRAGEOUSLY OVER PRICED CLOTHES, THEN YOU GOT IT A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE.
And to you Goths:
GET SOME FUCKIN SUN!!!! PEOPLE ARE TALKING SHIT ABOUT YOU GUYS. THEY THINK YOU'RE THE DEVIL'S PLAYTHINGS OR SOMETHING. SO GO START UP A COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM, SHOW'EM THAT YOU'RE NOT THAT BAD. OPEN A FUCKIN DAYCARE OR SOMETHING!!! TEACH KIDS, INTRODUCE THEM TO BAUHAUS OR SOMETHING!!!
GOD DAMN KIDS TODAY.....
[Marie: Brian got his info from Wikipedia's articles on "Goth subculture" and "Emo (music)".]
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